A Political Message by Casting Crowns

After last week’s concert, I’ve been listening a lot to the music of Casting Crowns, which gets even better by familiarity. I have especially warmed to the song “While You Were Sleeping”- which is about how humanity too often ignores God, even when He’s right there in front of us. It’s still a very good song, but my impression was somewhat tainted when I discovered a political agenda hidden in this song.

Observe the fourth verse: “United States of America //Looks like another silent night// Every son deceived by philosophies // That save the trees and kill the children” It seems to me that CC are expressing a stance against the environment and against choice (in abortion).

I know this is a touchy subject, and perhaps not as controversial in the U.S. But I strongly believe that politics and religion should be kept separate. I am happy that the Seventh-day Adventist Church promotes religious liberty and separation of church and state. I believe that, as a Christian living in a democracy, you ought to take part in that democracy, but nobody should expect you to have this or that political view because of your religion.

Author: Kenneth Mollerup Birch

Living north of Copenhagen, Denmark. MA in Information Science. Interests include communication, internet, sociology, language, politics, religion, theology, travel, music, and food.

6 thoughts on “A Political Message by Casting Crowns”

  1. So is your view that politics and religion remain separate informed by a religious source or a political one?

    If the govt. demands that you recognize Caesar as Lord, should you do it?

    Should religion inform your views of justice/injustice? How should you react to unjust actions of the govt. or unjust laws?

  2. Valid questions, indeed, and I admit there may be no simple answer. The Bible does give some indications, but not a crystal-clear picture. We should “obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29), but also “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s” (Matthew 22:29). So in each case, it will be a judgment call whom to follow.

    So as for your question, my view is informed probably by a mixture of religious and political source. I must admit, as a Westerner, that I have faith in western liberal democracy, and I also believe that in a free country, religion shouldn’t influence politics.

    Sure, faith should influence society, but definitely not partisan politcs.

    As I said, no easy answer. Am I making any sense?

  3. Ja ja – det er alt sammen godt nok, men et eller andet sted så betyder ens tro altså ofte så meget for folk at det præger deres handlinger og holdninger (det er da i hvert fald det man forsøger at den skal), og det må jo så altså nødvendigvis også påvirke ens politiske holdninger der må være en undergruppe under ens holdninger generelt.

    At man så ikke kan vende den om og sige at alle med en bestemt form for tro skal have en bestemt form for politisk holdning er noget andet! Det handler jo om at folk tolker religion på forskellige måder og man ikke kan påtvinge folk sin egen tolkning (som man nogengange ser forsøg på fordi nogen tror de har patent på bestemte religioner) men kun kan forsøge at overbevise om at det man tror er rigtigt. Men det er der vel heller ikke noget forkert i… Og det er vel bare det Casting Crown gør.

    Det at de er et band der udgiver sange og sådan noget ændrer vel ikke på det. De gør det jo også med deres kristne budskab – den måde de læser Bibelen på. Så længe de ikke siger at man ikke kan være kristen hvis man ikke læser Bibelen på samme måde som dem (og dermed har de holdninger de har – både politiske og ikke politiske)

    Bare lige for at nuancere billedet lidt – og det er jo altså ikke et personligt angreb på dig Kenneth – men synes bare man så ofte hører holdningen at politik og tro skal være fuldstændig adskilt men tror bare ikke det er helt så enkelt 🙂

  4. @Kat: Selvfølgelig tror jeg ikke, det er et personligt angreb, bare rolig 🙂 Jeg erkender gerne, at religion/politik kan gå hen og blive en kæphæst, måske især fordi jeg interesserer mig for og har holdninger til begge dele.

    Måske kan man vende den om og sige, at det netop ikke kan adskilles – og, som du siger, vil ens tro påvirke ens andre holdninger; det samme vil ens politiske holdninger. I virkeligheden præger alle vores holdninger til ting også vores holdninger til andre ting. Dvs., at politiske holdninger også vil påvirke vores tro. Det ser jeg faktisk ikke noget problem i, for begge dele er menneskeskabt. Ja, Gud er guddommelig og absolut, men tro og religion er stadig noget subjektivt, der ligger i os.

    Og at Casting Crowns så præsenterer politiske holdninger, man kan være mere eller mindre i, er nok ikke væsentligt anderledes end at præsentere religiøse holdninger, man kan være mere eller mindre enig i. Det er blot forskellige domæner, som det ganske rigtigt er vanskeligt at holde adskilt. CC er naturligvis i deres gode ret til at blande dem, men jeg foretrækker stadig at holde dem adskilt, i hvert fald på hjemmebane, dvs. fx i kirken eller i Folketinget.

  5. Kenneth,

    Thank you for the response. A few weeks ago the fellows from the White Horse Inn touched a bit on religion and politics, I think they make some great points. You can listen online if you have time. The show was called Christless Christianity.

    http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/The_White_Horse_Inn/archives.asp?bcd=2007-6-3

    I am also going to email you a few pages I scanned from a book called Peculiar Speech by William Willimon from a chapter called “Preaching as Politics”, so look for that. Willimon has some great things to say also on the matter.

    – Ethan

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